Police Are Using "Reverse Search Warrants" To Get Your Location Data - Cheddar Sidebar


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  • La Ki113r
    La Ki113r  1 weeks back

    I think that something like that should be not illegal but more useful to the police department and Google and apple should make the system in a way where each phone product should be 98% positive that the owner of the device is the person that there looking for .. but since we live in 21 century hackers can get in on this process and use it to swat people. So intell Google and apple can make better security to prevent hacking. I think they should not allow people to be track using there phones

    • Ryan Meghdies
      Ryan Meghdies  2 weeks back

      Oh no! Police can obtain anonymous location data and then determine IDs of people that match a strict filter. I don't want the police to know where I work, eat, and live. They might come unannounced to take some of my takeout food after I visit my favourite spot. Arghhh! This darn government is invading my privacy and it's really negatively impacting my life.

      • infinitecanadian
        infinitecanadian  3 weeks back

        In the case of the man who died of a heart attack during the robbery, that actually is legally considered murder.

        • joseph godbout
          joseph godbout  4 weeks back

          How do you become a "civil liberties expert"

          • Frankie McGill
            Frankie McGill  3 months back


            • Flight 32X
              Flight 32X  3 months back

              I don't want a phone

              • Abiyah Rina
                Abiyah Rina  3 months back

                Freedom for security, welcome to the new age

                • mnguyea
                  mnguyea  3 months back

                  I see this as a useful tool in solving crimes if not abused by law enforcement but that is like letting kids into a candy store. What can go wrong...That said if you are dumb enough to carry a phone while committing a crime than they deserve to be caught.

                  • Ali
                    Ali  3 months back

                    Again... America, home of the “free” 🙄😂

                    • Vladimir Pwet
                      Vladimir Pwet  4 months back

                      governments have been using telcos to get locations of cellphones for years now. how is it any different?

                      • lothean
                        lothean  4 months back

                        Funny how people cry about privacy. We all see the shit they post online freely, and if you truly are afraid, just downgrade you phone that's not a mini computer you carry.

                        • DommoPA
                          DommoPA  4 months back

                          This posting is not what it appears to be. Forget google. Cell providers track phones even when they are OFF. Leave them home of place them in an RF proof bag so the cell towers cannot ping them.

                          • Jeffrey D
                            Jeffrey D  4 months back

                            We are supposed to be angry that police know I was at Starbucks when a murder was committed? Im all for privacy..but ok...

                            • frep you
                              frep you  4 months back

                              i would not have a problem with this
                              if the police could be trusted

                              • H. R. Lawrence
                                H. R. Lawrence  4 months back

                                This CAN be great for catching people who need to be caught. But it all will blow up once this net catches someone who is innocent. After all, if you're going to do something bad. One would have a burner phone and only the innocent would be caught by this method. Like she said, the police in this case had already had suspects before the second warrant.

                                • Rosanna Miller
                                  Rosanna Miller  4 months back

                                  I don't get the issue over this. Can someone explain please?

                                  I don't get why the police are searching FOR potential suspects though.

                                  The cops do many horrible things like question people without cause. Arresting people when we are innocent until proven guilty. Why are they arresting innocent people?

                                  • MatthewLikesPizza
                                    MatthewLikesPizza  5 months back

                                    Why the fuck does it matter if the police know your location if you aren't doing anything wrong.

                                    • Coverage Awareness Studio

                                      Justice just became injustice... LACK OF LEGAL EVIDENCE!

                                      • mrthomasfritz
                                        mrthomasfritz  6 months back

                                        Google is doing evil and God does not like it. Google is cursed, look, your crane fell down, killing your workers and others. Your evil must end, to end Gods wrath. You have been shot up, hacked, and exposed to ... yet Google continues to be evil. Wake up!

                                        • Francis L Mayer
                                          Francis L Mayer  6 months back

                                          The legal profession, the political establishment, and citizens world wide must become cybersecurity literate and demand that we operate in a manner that balances risks inherent in all technology, the need for civil liberties and the need for security. This requires real work and the people need to spend more time educating themselves and less time engrossed in being entertained. This is the fact from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported recently that "On an average day, nearly everyone age 15 and over (96 percent) engaged in some sort of leisure activity, such as watching TV, socializing, or exercising. Men spent 33 minutes per day more in these activities than did women (5.5 hours, compared with 5.0 hours)." Retrieved form and you can refer to https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/atus.pdf

                                          Of course people need leisure time, especially to get exercise, but giving one more hour a day to lifelong learning would still give people 4 hours of leisure per day and would make the world much safer in all respects. Plus the people would ultimately have a higher quality of life with more civil liberties if everyone took the time to stay informed and to actively engage their law makers to do the right thing.

                                          • Rosen Petkov
                                            Rosen Petkov  6 months back

                                            Welcome to minority report.

                                            • lee frazile
                                              lee frazile  7 months back

                                              Let the police do their work.

                                              • Ossian Bohn
                                                Ossian Bohn  7 months back

                                                Well thats terrifying

                                                • Jason Ware
                                                  Jason Ware  7 months back

                                                  Seems ok to me. I use apple products.

                                                  • m sway
                                                    m sway  7 months back

                                                    Look up (FARADAY BAGS) for Phones and Laptops it will block any Connection to Cell Phone Towers, Use it At Home and While you are Traveling.

                                                    • kar oma
                                                      kar oma  7 months back

                                                      I'm getting an iPhone

                                                      • Rob
                                                        Rob  7 months back

                                                        What you really should be asking is how Google should be expected to have location data on EVERY cell phone in a given area even when they are not: a cellular service provider, the phone OS provider except for one type which is usually OEM to third-party manufacturers, and may not even be the search engine of choice for some users.

                                                        I ask, if they still have ALL location data regardless of those limitations (and others)? Then what the blibbering effalump is Google really?

                                                        • Yoyle 0340
                                                          Yoyle 0340  7 months back

                                                          As long it’s used against crime then it’s ok

                                                          • Halo
                                                            Halo  7 months back

                                                            Portland isn’t in Maine, that’s Oregon

                                                            • John Robert
                                                              John Robert  7 months back

                                                              There's Portland, Maine AND Portland, Oregon.

                                                          • Lee Gray
                                                            Lee Gray  7 months back

                                                            they mandated GPS in all phones . then they mandated permanent batteries so you couldn't take them out to stop them tracking you , now they are pushing the chip implant !WTF! this is all part of the push by the NWO to know where you are , what your doing and saying at any given moment they choose , its only a matter of time before they try to mandate that in !

                                                            • Michael McCurley
                                                              Michael McCurley  7 months back

                                                              Silly people can't find the off switch ???

                                                              • XX 24
                                                                XX 24  7 months back

                                                                Oh hell No that's far enough that means if I watch porn you can see that my router number

                                                                • William Saltzmann
                                                                  William Saltzmann  7 months back

                                                                  Cell phones are a way of putting a bell around your neck. LOL.

                                                                  • Patrick Ols
                                                                    Patrick Ols  7 months back

                                                                    I don't own a cell phone, never had one and never will have one. Just don't see the need for it.

                                                                    • grich006
                                                                      grich006  7 months back

                                                                      People are so sensitive. Geez! If you didn't do anything then what's the problem. OMG, I might turn up in a list, so what. If I didn't do anything then I have nothing to worry about.

                                                                      • William Chao
                                                                        William Chao  7 months back

                                                                        Maybe our government should promote Huawei so that we can catch more criminals. Wait. Google has our locations at all time like Huawei. So... We don't need Huawei afterall.

                                                                        • Joshua Harferd
                                                                          Joshua Harferd  7 months back

                                                                          I'm just waiting for the librem phone

                                                                          • Bill Vegas
                                                                            Bill Vegas  7 months back

                                                                            You gotta some kind of special dumb to be committing crimes with a cell phone in your pocket. And while I'm sure it happens the pros are not bringing their iPhone to the scene. So how effective is this really?

                                                                            • ClubMayview
                                                                              ClubMayview  7 months back

                                                                              You ain't far off from having those little I'd chips implanted in you hands.

                                                                              • Timothy Lee
                                                                                Timothy Lee  7 months back

                                                                                What's the crime with the saltines in the front seat of that car? circle jerk?

                                                                                • Radagast
                                                                                  Radagast  7 months back

                                                                                  I could be mistaken but I don't remember the government asking permission to do this

                                                                                  • ghostmemeboi
                                                                                    ghostmemeboi  4 months back

                                                                                    Radagast yet u always agree to terms and conditions without reading dont u??

                                                                                • Nemo Niente
                                                                                  Nemo Niente  7 months back

                                                                                  ...if you ain't doing anything wrong, don't sweat it... if you ain't nobody that matters, don't sweat it... you think the government has nothing better to do than survey your boring ass lives...!?!?! ...get over yourselves...

                                                                                  • K. Chris Caldwell
                                                                                    K. Chris Caldwell  7 months back

                                                                                    Only a criminal government need spy on the people.

                                                                                    _"Ignorance is Strength." I'm weak._

                                                                                    • Mystee Pulcine
                                                                                      Mystee Pulcine  7 months back

                                                                                      This doesn't bother me. Especially with the two step process, i feel like no private info is re revealed without probable cause. Sounds like a useful technique.

                                                                                      • JacobBe5
                                                                                        JacobBe5  7 months back

                                                                                        The police aren't tracking you. You are tracking you.

                                                                                        You have the GPS turned on, you use the google services, you share that information with google.

                                                                                        Imagine you shopped and at some point there was a robbery next door. The police go to the shop owners in the area and ask who had stopped by that day. The owner reports you did. What did the police do that was wrong?

                                                                                        If you can't figure out anything then guess what, they still aren't.

                                                                                        Google is that shop, and they are able to tell the police where in their store you were shopping with some level of accuracy. Sometimes that accuracy is amazing, other times not as good. Which is partially why they need the map to be a certain size. Because lets say you were just four feet away from the person who was robbed, due to the margin of error google might in fact say you were 30 feet away. It depends on what method your phone was using at that time.

                                                                                        But nice muddying the water with the 93% information. Not enough to be useful, but enough to maybe stoke a little unreasonable fear?

                                                                                        Pretty confident I found the study* you were talking about with google overestimating accuracy 93% of the time. Let clean that up and actually convey what they found.
                                                                                        "Regarding Wi-Fi connection, we can see in rural environment there is no Wi-Fi connection data and in Urban environment Google is too optimistic, giving smaller radii than the actual errors. This makes Google location by Wi-Fi not reliable."
                                                                                        It wasn't reliable in that they might say you were on one block when you were actually the next one over. They were not saying "Bob is in London" when Bob is actually in Paris. And this only covered situation where google was relying entirely on wi-fi data to make a decision.


                                                                                        • Mayank Jain
                                                                                          Mayank Jain  7 months back

                                                                                          Privacy violation of thief!

                                                                                          • Kevin Ley
                                                                                            Kevin Ley  7 months back

                                                                                            This is why unless I'm at work my phone is at home. I'm not commiting any crimes but fuck you Google, you don't need to know where I am you sellouts.

                                                                                            • Nicole K
                                                                                              Nicole K  7 months back

                                                                                              Google are welcome to try tracking me. I don't have a mobile phone. Nothing sinister, I just don't see the point. I live 60 years without one and managed just fine. There has been only one occasion when I really needed one, so I stopped at a petrol station and borrowed their phone for a charitable donation.