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  • Published: 20 August 2019
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    Sources:
    [Polygon] Apex Legends forum furious as devs call players ‘ass-hats’ and ‘freeloaders’ tinyurl.com/y3ps6n6u
    [EA] AN UPDATE ON THE IRON CROWN COLLECTION EVENT tinyurl.com/y5rzj9te
    [Reddit] An Update on The Iron Crown Event tinyurl.com/y6y6sgyv
    [Games Radar] Apex Legends developers and players clash in angry Reddit exchange about Iron Crown microtransactions tinyurl.com/y5oc2qlv
    [PC Gamer] Apex Legends producer calls players 'ass-hats' and 'dicks' in heated Reddit thread tinyurl.com/y32gm96v
    [Twitter] @jayfrechette bit.ly/2P1XSdS
    [Medium] Apex Legends developers spark outrage after calling gamers “dicks”, “ass-hats”and “freeloaders” bit.ly/2ZcJSlk
    [Dorkly] Star Wars Battlefront II Just Had One of the Worst AMAs of All-Time bit.ly/2KSTrg5
    [Kotaku] Video Game Publisher Apologizes After Hosting AMA On 8Chan bit.ly/2Mqnvmm
    [Venture Beat] EA: Apex Legends has 8-to-10 million players a week bit.ly/30ffV1u
    [Reddit] PR team and devs, well done. You have alienated your playerbase. bit.ly/2MqnSNM
    [Ooblets] We did the thing bit.ly/2OyzpfS
    [Reddit] Ooblets will be releasing exclusively on Epic Game Store bit.ly/2Zd1ldz
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Comments • 1 755

  • Predx Esports
    Predx Esports  5 days back

    Watch our first ever team warm up ! lol

    • TY'carter Tracks
      TY'carter Tracks  1 weeks back

      soooooooo...im one of the people who never has stake in the beef but loves to watch drama blow up so my motto online is.
      "somtimes its fun to fan the flames and watch the world burn bright."

      • stoeger 2
        stoeger 2  3 weeks back

        Freeloaders(in a free game, which needs the biggest player base it can get, oh he fucked that one up)

        • Megamanover9000
          Megamanover9000  3 weeks back

          Can anyone tell me what game is shown at 10:00 to 10:02?

          • The Angry Blyat
            The Angry Blyat  3 weeks back

            I knew it was only a matter of time before Apex went downhill

            • cai morgan
              cai morgan  4 weeks back

              👏👏👏 monday

              • Eric Miller
                Eric Miller  4 weeks back

                More clickbait. If you think this dev insulted you personally it's probably because you're an asshat and a freeloader. It's free to play. Stfu and either play and uninstall. DEV didnt say anything wrong and if your feelings are hurt get some aloe vera.

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                  • Vallipist
                    Vallipist  4 weeks back

                    Wait till these guys see the dbrand twitter account

                    • mavruss1
                      mavruss1  4 weeks back

                      In the late 90s, I considered getting into game development. Glad I didn't...holy shit.

                      • Paul Lantigua
                        Paul Lantigua  4 weeks back

                        Hey guess what? The devs are right. Most players nowadays are entitled even when its a free to play game. What more do ya’ll want? You could dish it out to the devs but can’t handle it when they do it to you? How about grow up.

                        • Dapper Enderman
                          Dapper Enderman  4 weeks back

                          Idk but I only just got an alert that this video was uploaded....... 5 days after

                          • Flameblade69
                            Flameblade69  4 weeks back

                            I believe the reason why players bite back at devs so hard these days is probably because they are all reaching their boiling point and tired of being screwed over so much over the years. That is just my opinion. It just feels like game companies just want to see how far they can push to get the most profit then once they go too far they reel it in a tiny bit, problem is they have been doing this for a long time now and it just keeps getting worse.

                            • LazySnorlax
                              LazySnorlax  4 weeks back

                              There was a good response to the dev saying they "remember when players weren't dicks" on reddit, as someone said "was it when cosmetic events weren't $200 dollars". Disappointed that IG didnt cover that part

                          • svenm sandity
                            svenm sandity  4 weeks back

                            Another game company who puts profits before the community thats a quick way to end up in the f2p grave yard see the business model should be simple ergonomic and fair not a get rich scheme what you think people will pay for a game thats more expensive then fortnite the game that will clearly outlast you like i keep saying a lootbox that is 25 cents and is 100% tradable is the future.

                            • Leon Thorn
                              Leon Thorn  4 weeks back

                              Devs should be more down to earth. But not that down to earth LOL

                              • GoodOlVintage
                                GoodOlVintage  4 weeks back

                                This is purely a reddit thing. Assholes on that site find any reason to get mad.

                                • Mynamesnotslimshady
                                  Mynamesnotslimshady  4 weeks back

                                  Lmao the games free and ppl still whining like lil children over some friggin skins looool I hope they shut it down just to put those self-entitled gamers on the spot

                                  • Jcmdale
                                    Jcmdale  4 weeks back

                                    ok but can we please talk about rampart?

                                    • Patrick O'Brien
                                      Patrick O'Brien  4 weeks back

                                      Free to play game that doesn't fuck over players and still makes money: Warframe.
                                      You can get basically everything in the game without buying anything. Only thing is Prime Packs which come with exclusive cosmetics as well as the newest character and weapons and the same amount of in game currency that you normally get for said price. And you can still get those weapons and character without buying them. It's just those specific cosmetics that are exclusive. You don't have to buy anything to get anything besides those special cosmetics. There is no "play to win", most cosmetics you can get without paying actual money. You can trade for in game currency, you don't have to buy that either. I've still spent a few hundred bucks on Warframe though, and never felt cheated or that it wasn't worth it. No Loot boxes, no random weapon drops. If you want a certain weapon or cosmetic, you can work toward building that specific item and feel accomplished when you do.

                                      • Patrick O'Brien
                                        Patrick O'Brien  4 weeks back

                                        Devs handled this quite poorly. Also... Yea $20 for a skin is absurd. Loot boxes suck and players would prefer buying skins directly but 20 fkn bucks?

                                        • Colleen Glanville
                                          Colleen Glanville  4 weeks back

                                          I forgive people to easily lol! 😂😂😂

                                          • Colleen Glanville
                                            Colleen Glanville  4 weeks back

                                            I think they should have gone with "B" because that's the right thing to do, but of course they just had to go with "D"...Absolutely terrible! ☹️

                                            • Ivan Cerecer
                                              Ivan Cerecer  4 weeks back

                                              Lets just assume Apex was a $60 game and you would need $100 instead to obtain the axe...

                                              That is still an unreseasonable price

                                              • Sosaman OTF
                                                Sosaman OTF  4 weeks back

                                                Apex is a free game though. So why are you even assuming anything?

                                            • matt fahringer
                                              matt fahringer  4 weeks back

                                              yeah you aren't winning fans by insulting them

                                              • Arturo Sanchez
                                                Arturo Sanchez  4 weeks back

                                                Can somebody explain to me whats the difference between a liar and a bullshitter? I never understood how people seem to think its scathing when they refer to someone in one insult but then proceed to use the same insult with a different word as if the two words meant two different things.


                                                Okay so he's not a bullshitter. But he's a liar? (as well as a list of obviously false claims that demerits the point even more).


                                                When I encounter this I'm usually baffled at how stupid it is, that I don't wanna interact with it anymore. Often being read by the simpleton as being outspoken with their big brain. Rendering me even more done with the situation.

                                                • Dre Jackson
                                                  Dre Jackson  4 weeks back

                                                  Freeloaders... in a free game🤔

                                                  Thank god I am not a fan of the Battle Royale genre. Seems all they do is make their players close their eyes and bend over

                                                  • Captain Waffles
                                                    Captain Waffles  4 weeks back

                                                    Its a free game, not a free service, you must have serious issues to not realise this basic distinction. My 6yr old cousin understand the gaming industry more than you lol

                                                • xxTyphoid
                                                  xxTyphoid  4 weeks back

                                                  Wtf $18 for a skin. Hell no

                                                  • Lunatic Psyker
                                                    Lunatic Psyker  4 weeks back

                                                    "But can you sliiide"

                                                    • avatardecadewho
                                                      avatardecadewho  4 weeks back

                                                      Having never played it should I even bother?

                                                      Edit: fuck it I bought Ooblets I'm good.

                                                      • jeffdid911
                                                        jeffdid911  4 weeks back

                                                        That's why even tho I stopped playing it Ive always respected fortnite and I've always been of the mindset that the hate is unwarranted, epic games even tho they were miles ahead of the competition they didn't try to take avantage of thier fanbase but they actually did the opposite by updating the game every week and listening to the community, also for a free to play game fortnite is not that predatory giving u the option to get the battle pass for free after a few sessions or just spend the v bucks on something else

                                                        • GAStayPosi
                                                          GAStayPosi  1 months back

                                                          Lol i love that Lawrence still believes in the wage gap.

                                                          • Ventus 7thLight
                                                            Ventus 7thLight  1 months back

                                                            I thought microtransactions were “okay” in Apex bc it was free to play lol. Man than narrative changed quick.

                                                            • LazySnorlax
                                                              LazySnorlax  4 weeks back

                                                              I think it's less microtransactions are bad in AL, and more that considering that to get the heirloom set item, players needed to pay 175 dollars to unlock the choice to buy the axe for an additional 35. That's a pretty outrageous price even for a f2p game

                                                          • TripleCrown757
                                                            TripleCrown757  1 months back

                                                            This whole thing is so dumb. Yes the devs shouldn’t have insulted their core player base like that, but apex legends is a free to play game who rely on cosmetics to make a profit. Cosmetics do not affect the gameplay. So I don’t understand why players make such a big deal over an overpriced cosmetic item. If you aren’t happy with the price then don’t buy it and move on because it’s how a free to play game makes money to continue to developing the game

                                                            • Sven
                                                              Sven  1 months back

                                                              This episode is sponsored by Queef.
                                                              Youre gonna need to wash your mouth out with something.

                                                              • George W Kush
                                                                George W Kush  1 months back

                                                                Who else watched that upside ad and saw gas at $4.50?

                                                                • Asal181
                                                                  Asal181  1 months back

                                                                  What about the real problems that no one seems to be talking about after the update:


                                                                  -Over priced axe that you get the option to pay for after getting all the event micro-transactions;

                                                                  - Lack luster skins the community has said multiple times, from the start, are not really worth the price tag;


                                                                  -The apology from the CEO of Respawn that said they were getting death threats where, at least when I was in the dumpster fire that was the "discussion," did not seem to happen (personal attacks yes, death threats not from what I saw);


                                                                  -The quote on quote sales that aren't really sales due to the fact that you always have to buy a set amount of coins;


                                                                  -Server issues that still plague this game and that don't seem to get any better while the develops work on more micro-transactions;


                                                                  -Useless crow currency that can just get you boring banners and maybe only one nice skin for a gun that, in my opinion, people don't really care about;


                                                                  -The fact that 90% of the time you cant see a skin that you have the option to buy for 18$ (a price that exceeds some other other free to play games that change more of the character's look such as in terms animations & voices)


                                                                  -The extreme grind that you have to go through in such a short amount of time, due to the events life span, that will give you the chance to only get 2 Apex Packs that are not just loaded with the new skins & other products, but also filled with the aforementioned useless crown currency (making that much harder to get the things you might want in those packs)


                                                                  Look, cus I know many people are going to say this, I know it is a free-to-play game. This is a game that I myself have sent $60 on to applaud the amazing game play that comes with Apex (and to get the chance of getting 3 skins that I personally believed where the only ones worth anything at the start of the games launch). In my opinion , however, the prices are pretty bad for single skins, that again for the most part, don't look very good (except for the recent ones, and even then are still pretty pricey). I hope at some point Respawn, at the very least, acknowledges the above issues.

                                                                  • Valdarious
                                                                    Valdarious  1 months back

                                                                    heh, and look how much free advertising they are getting by bringing it all up, lol. I seriously doubt anyone is leaving the game after what they said. I have never played the game myself but it seems pretty popular.

                                                                    • IonicGecko Games
                                                                      IonicGecko Games  1 months back

                                                                      I'll also say that many gamers' frustration, anger and negative attitude these days has been caused by AAA publishers and their greed.🤑 Go back 10 years and show me games with such egregious monetization schemes. Things weren't this bad back then and I can't fault people for expressing their distaste towards games that include stuff like lootboxes "surprise mechanics" aka gambling and $18 digital goods that have no real world value.😑 I'd be pissed too if a game was no longer trying to be fun and instead trying to grab money out of my wallet every chance it got. So, yeah gamers are more angry and vocal especially since now you can get right up in devs' faces and call them out on their BS. This Apex disaster was just the latest in the line of money hungry execs wanting to squeeze as much dough out of consumers as possible.💰💰💰 Personally, I try and be smarter about my gaming purchases as I'm not willing to support companies that put profits before a fun gaming experience. 😒

                                                                      • Tesityr
                                                                        Tesityr  1 months back

                                                                        1. Thank you for telling people "how to act" on BOTH sides... (people don't have to be so toxic and devs - as representatives of a company - should never be negative to customers, as with all businesses...)


                                                                        2. I think that game companies should always have a 'PR Dept.' to deal with the general public, not have Devs interact directly (maybe post Reactions/Updates/etc only) - the reason? Devs work hours on end, putting in their own sweat into something, then get yelled at because it's 'not something else', which is detrimental to their emotional/psychological well being - they should not have to deal with that (as Developers/Programmers) a PR department (with Trained/Educated Staff) should always be the front/face of a company, taking all the crap in and saying thank you while smiling.


                                                                        +1

                                                                        • Billy Masterson
                                                                          Billy Masterson  1 months back

                                                                          I don’t feel bad for them one bit. This freemium economy has spiraled out of control.

                                                                          Fortnite (along with several other games) found ways to amass millions without being overzealous with monetization.

                                                                          Apex didn’t build up a free-to-play game proper and just assumed overpriced skins would be purchased without anyone batting an eye.

                                                                          • Gamer Churl
                                                                            Gamer Churl  1 months back

                                                                            So many better words they could have used instead of "freeloaders", like "cheapskates" or "parasites"

                                                                            • Gastón Girard
                                                                              Gastón Girard  1 months back

                                                                              When you're doing straight-to-consumer conversation you have to be aware that for many people, PR talk is just disingenuous and they will speak their mind directly to you (you explicitly gave them the platform for that!). When the majority of gamers believe that EA is a soulless corporate cash-grabbing machine, whoever has to communicate HAS to be aware of that fact and that it WILL be said directly to you.

                                                                              • Charlie Allen
                                                                                Charlie Allen  1 months back

                                                                                When did people become so self-entitled? It’s as if about 40% of the planet no longer have manners, respect or patience...

                                                                                • MegaGangsta4life
                                                                                  MegaGangsta4life  1 months back

                                                                                  Yall are the Rhett and link of gaming

                                                                                  • Dr. Zoidberg
                                                                                    Dr. Zoidberg  4 weeks back

                                                                                    Pretty sure Dan & Arin are the Rhett & Link of gaming.

                                                                                • Spider Pug
                                                                                  Spider Pug  1 months back

                                                                                  Why his chin look like minecraft Steve’s

                                                                                  • Alex Re
                                                                                    Alex Re  1 months back

                                                                                    People need to grow the fuck up and stop being so sensitive. "Omg my video games isn't not what I want", well grow up and move on, it's a hobby. Also I'm all about telling a stupid "costumer" to go fuck themselves. Treat others how you wana be treated, so if you are a dick then dont bitch for getting told to shut the fuck up.

                                                                                    • Dr. Zoidberg
                                                                                      Dr. Zoidberg  4 weeks back

                                                                                      When you're talking about "grow up", you might literally be talking about children. I've experienced more than one infuriating internet conversation just to find out the asshole I was talking to was a literal child.

                                                                                  • Steven
                                                                                    Steven  1 months back

                                                                                    2:54 "-5310" big OOF

                                                                                    • ꧁ᜰ꙰࿐
                                                                                      ꧁ᜰ꙰࿐  1 months back

                                                                                      1) Bilk you customers
                                                                                      2) Disrespect the integrity of your customers
                                                                                      3) ???
                                                                                      4) Profit!

                                                                                      Total morons.